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The past, present, and future of Avalanche player development

Andi Duroux
Andi Duroux
December 3, 2018
The past, present, and future of Avalanche player development

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gstpulldn

gstpulldn

December 3, 2018

Awesome job Andi!

bjjones05

bjjones05

December 3, 2018

Thank you for this article. I’ve been wanting to know how we have done with our drafting over the past few seasons. Hopefully we have the right people to get this moving in the right direction. Well done!!

toddbeckerphoto

toddbeckerphoto

December 3, 2018

counting bigras, mironov, and Martin as graduating players to the NHL is being VERY generous. The last time the Avs produced an NHL quality player from above the 10th pick was ROR and Barrie. Pickard, Michael Bournival, and Butcher are the only possible exceptions but one is a backup goalie still looking for a home, one we almost immedialty traded for Ryan Obyrne(lol wtf), and the other never even signed. We could have traded a good majority of all the 2nd-7th round picks, and any firsts higher than 10 overall, from 2010-2018 and come out far ahead of what we have now. It looks like maybe Greer and Kaut might beat the odds some day and a couple other recent picks might have a chance. Hopefully we are finally improving our scouting.

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Eidolon

Eidolon

December 3, 2018

Todd’s right. I’ve been told by many persons how the Avs are abjectly horrible at drafting, developing, retaining, and correctly monetizing players. Like, historically bad. Like, maybe they’re doing it on purpose just to screw over the kids they drafted. I mean, if you set a criteria to compare relative trends across the league and then don’t cherry pick the data like Todd is asking you to do, does it show that the Avs are horrible? Cuz that’s what I’ve also been told is how you should actually analyze this kind of thing: Establish your narrative first, then caveat the criteria and cherry pick the data to support the narrative.

Sarcasm aside, great article.

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Andi Duroux

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December 4, 2018

One of the major points of this article is that while it feels like the Avs development is a tire fire, when you put everyone in the league on the same playing field, the Avs aren’t doing that poorly (which, if we’re being honest, surprised the heck out of me). Getting steady NHLers past the top 10 picks is clearly tough for everyone. There’s no denying they’ve struggled in the past, but Hepple took over for the 2015 draft and there have been noticeable positive changes since then, especially in the late rounds.

It takes time to fix a broken scouting department. Early returns on Hepple have been good, but it’s too early to tell on most of his picks. I’m just not sure there’s anyone out there that’s a better choice – it’s still too early to tell. But unlike under Pracey, a good number of Hepple’s picks have already graduated to the AHL.

I think the Avs are far more focused than they’ve ever been at making sure their prospects succeed at that level as well. Graduations aren’t just about who the team picks on draft day; it’s also about what happens to them from that point on. Cronin seems to be on the same page as Bednar, and the Eagles are doing better than any Avs affiliate in a long, long time.

Surprisingly, I feel a lot better about where the Avs are headed now than I did when I started this research. I think they may have finally figured some stuff out, and the results should start trickling in over the next 1-3 years.

RockyHockey

RockyHockey

December 3, 2018

Amazing article- great depth and detail. And this helps us get some perspective on our perceptions of the success rate of their player development system.

Dayton Buchanan

Dayton Buchanan

December 3, 2018

incredibly well done article.

Rich

Rich

December 3, 2018

Great read – thank you!

SuperMario223

SuperMario223

December 4, 2018

Hats off! What a great article.

Avsolutely

Avsolutely

December 4, 2018

Great piece Andi!

Jwa174900

Jwa174900

December 4, 2018

Another fantastic article. Thank you. I am happy to have re-upped my subscription for another year. Articles like this make it an easy decision

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Adrian Dater

Adrian Dater

December 4, 2018

Andi is brilliant, and we’re glad you decided to re-up too.

Avalangelist

Avalangelist

December 4, 2018

The biggest change I see with Hepple and co. is they are looking everywhere for talent. Under Pracey, they really only drafted out of North America but Hepple has drafted Czechs, Fins, Swedes and a healthy number of Russians.

Pracey used late rounds like a “well we will see” while Hepple looks for who has the highest ceiling.

shamrockpwr76

shamrockpwr76

December 4, 2018

And, this is a masterpiece. Is there any way you could add another piece discussing in-NHL development, as a function of year-over-year point increases as the team retains players? There’s been a lot of attention paid to McKinnon and Raantanen’s improvement under Bednar – but I wonder if the Avs’ patience with Compher, Jost, and in the past Barrie is paying off more or less than the way other teams develop NHLers once they are with the big club?

I heard a great quote from Mack over the summer, talking about how if Jost picked up his production, it would be like adding another player. Thanks again for a fantastic read. Can’t wait for your next one!

MSAvsfan

MSAvsfan

December 4, 2018

This is awesome! Thanks for all your work on this. im glad i bought a subscription!

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