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Shocker: Avs send top prospect to minors

Adrian Dater
Adrian Dater
January 17, 2019
Shocker: Avs send top prospect to minors

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gtq

gtq

January 17, 2019

I would have kept Graves in the lineup over Nemeth and Barberio.

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Adrian Dater

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January 17, 2019

You’re not the first person who’s told me that about Graves.

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Steve -B

Steve -B

January 18, 2019

Yes but Nemeth is our icing the puck king, and we can’t ever not have one of those. lol

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Jap18

Jap18

January 17, 2019

I agree, he showed smart plays with the puck. He never used his size as an advantage but neither did Mikko until this year and the end of last. But the smart plays with the puck were enough for me to trust him more than barbs and Nemeth. Do anyone else notice that Varly and Barbs are always having miscommunications with the puck behind their own net?

IdAvsFan

IdAvsFan

January 17, 2019

Jost is more that 4ht line material and needs to regain his confidence – would have rather seen Nemeth sent down than Graves, even if it means losing him on the waiver wire

MattYouens

MattYouens

January 17, 2019

As hard as this could be for a 20-year-old… it could prove to be the perfect move. I wish Tyson all the best with more ice time!

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bjjones05

bjjones05

January 17, 2019

My thoughts exactly. Like AD said, I think he rushed it coming out of UND after only 1 year. Hopefully this will be the best thing for him and the team moving forward.

Rich

Rich

January 17, 2019

Adrian, Any thought of a potential trade brewing before the deadline? This team is not going to make the playoffs. I say Sakic should start to make some moves by getting rid of the mediocre talent, Barbs, Nemeth, Dries, Bourque, Ghetto…

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faydout

faydout

January 17, 2019

Not sure they’d have enough value to make it worth blowing up the NHL and AHL rosters.

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bhintze

bhintze

January 18, 2019

Agreed. In return for the Avs mediocre talent, we would probably only get guys that have failed to prove their value in other organizations. If the Avs chemistry was garbage, this might make sense, but I don’t get the impression (from our intrepid BSNDenver reporters) that the locker room is full of guys that don’t like playing together.

Nels

Nels

January 17, 2019

I like this. He should have spent last year in college, and this year in the AHL.

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StormSlab

StormSlab

January 18, 2019

Bingo. Watched some NoDak games when he was there and he flashed great skill, but even my untrained eye and fanboy nature could tell that he was NOT ready. This will be great for him if he handles it appropriately. Tougher with NCAA players since you have to sign them early or you lose them…

NoMoreRats

NoMoreRats

January 17, 2019

I don’t question that this is a good idea in theory but I really don’t understand the timing. Jost had 4 points (2G, 2A) in the four games before Montreal. Then he played pretty well in that game winning both faceoffs he took and having 3 SOG’s. He didn’t hit the scoresheet but neither did anyone else. Then for some reason he was singled out and sent to the 4th line where he played around 8 minutes against Toronto and Ottawa and then gets sent down. He has more points in January than Kerfoot or Compher, the fifth highest scoring forward on the team behind the big boys and Carl during the month so far. Why do they finally do this now instead of December when he had 1 point in 15 games?

Seems kind of like a scapegoat to send a message to the rest of the team. A pre-planned scapegoat when they do it after demoting him to the 4th right after he finally started scoring again. Weird. He does need to be harder on the puck, I’m sure that will be the main point of concentration in Loveland. I honestly think his ‘slowness’ is a result thinking too much out there. He is not a slow skater.

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Chris DeMott

Chris DeMott

January 18, 2019

Perhaps the team is being a bit opportunistic with the timing. However, It stills needs to be done. Tyson, seems like he needs to know he paid his dues and belongs in this league. He needs to own his space more and play aggressively all the time. The American League will provide him a little more time and space as well as the necessary minutes to play with his head up more and learn how his skill set translates better. Maybe when he’s finally old enough to legally attend a BSN Watch party, we’ll see his potential bear fruit.

knhl72

knhl72

January 17, 2019

This seems to be a common situation for younger players, perhaps a little more with the former college players specifically. The NCAA game is very different than the NHL game. Even Hobey Baker nominees and winners can get sent down to get their confidence back up. I wonder if there’s any difference with defensive vs. offensive players? Hm…? Even Troy Terry was sent down to the Gulls in San Diego, and he’s been tearing it up ever since. His next move back to the Ducks will be his LAST move from the Gulls, at least that’s the goal! Keep on keepin’ on, boys!

pixelrebirth

pixelrebirth

January 18, 2019

I feel like Jost just never really got over the nerves of playing in the NHL. Most new players have nerves for a chunk of games but I feel like those nerves didn’t let up with him. Bednar rubberbanding him to the 4th line is probably not good either for what seems to be fragile confidence in Jost. Long overdue move to the AHL in my opinion. He might have been better off playing the season there IMO. Hopefully, the AHL demotion is not just a quick stint and he is more long term there this year, he needs it if we want him to be a 2C in the NHL.

ljp78

ljp78

January 18, 2019

In the off season, instead of of gambling on high priced UFA’s, the Avs gambled that their up and comers would take a step forward. It’s the right gamble imo, though a conservative one. This is what happens though when those gambles don’t pay off; you might not be left with an NHL player. If anything, this seems to be opening a door for Carl to take the 2C position. I don’t think Tyson Jost is a top six player, regardless. And if he’s a 3 or 4C, then he’d better watch out, because Kamenev will come back, and Bowers is coming.

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JDC15

JDC15

January 18, 2019

I agree with everything you said. However with the uber youth of the league and ultra young super stars I think it gets lost that guys are still physically maturing at this age, which is scary for guys like MacK and Mikko, and that Jost can still mature into a 2nd line guy. Let’s hope that is the case here.

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jpwheels

jpwheels

January 18, 2019

Nice post.
Your thoughts highlight the tough spot a GM, management, scouts, etc… are in.
Earlier this season when the 922996 line was laying waste to all comers every time they stepped on the ice, I was frustrated that Sakic hadn’t gone out and got this team some additional proven scoring help…even though it didn’t look like at the time it was needed.

In my mind, waiting on the youngsters to mature into the players everyone thinks and hopes they will be is a HUGE gamble. The waiting strategy is betting on potential. As you pointed out, players sometimes never get there. And even if the studs in the pipeline do reach their potential and do turn into the the players they’re projected to be, the guys that are producing now might not be as dangerous.

Like I said — tough spot for Joe & others.

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jpwheels

jpwheels

January 18, 2019

I think it’s simply that he isn’t producing like they need and think he can along with not showing improvement either.
And I’d guess it’s felt that he might progress more by playing bigger minutes with less pressure.

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Markk

Markk

January 18, 2019

I think Jost COULD be a top-6, but some time in the AHL is exactly what he needs. Just look at what it did for Rantanen!

Eve

Eve

January 18, 2019

What is the story.on Timmons now? Is he still in Denver?

Pucklehead

Pucklehead

January 18, 2019

Long overdue…

Pucklehead

Pucklehead

January 18, 2019

Time to send grubauer down and bring Francouz up…

Johnny M

Johnny M

January 18, 2019

I wonder if this is a precursor to some trade action. I feel like for the right price, a trade and sign for Wayne Simmonds could be a nice move for grit and some scoring. As long as it was a reasonable price, due to age, style of play etc. He’s the type of player the avs would do well to add.

DoubleD

DoubleD

January 21, 2019

Yup, so many in agreement here … they rushed Jost. He could have used another year at UND (amazing program) just the way Makar is doing so well in a second season at UMASS. Jost could have used a season in the AHL the same way Mikko did, but they insisted that he play in the NHL at 19. Note they aren’t rushing Kaut having learned their lesson. So it’s a reclamation project but it’s really management’s fault. I still think he is a key piece in the Long term. But wow … a re programmed Jost, Kamenev, Bowers, Kaut, Greer, Lewis, Hughes/Kakko, and who knows who else … this will be a hard team to make next year.

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