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Avs-Flyers Grades – Mikko, Mikko, Mikko

AJ Haefele
AJ Haefele
November 5, 2017
Avs-Flyers Grades – Mikko, Mikko, Mikko

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Av-a-dabba-doo

Av-a-dabba-doo

November 5, 2017

Thx, AJ. Just a couple thoughts in response from one dude (me):
– Have you ever devoted a segment of a podcast to explaining some of the analytics that you feel are most significant (e.g. individual possession numbers, etc.)? If you think such material would be too ‘dense’ and tedious for airplay, I understand. On the other hand, I might not be the only one whose hockey IQ would benefit. It might help me, for example, better understand grades as low as a “D+” for Nemeth in last night’s game.
– I thought (as did you) that Matt Duchene was so good in this one. I know I sound like a simpleton asking, but why is the possibility of salvaging the ‘Duchene as an Av’ situation definitely NOT a possibility? (I know it is not even entertained by you guys.)
– Sure was glad to see the ‘end of the alphabet guys’ (Yak & Z) have the games they did. Both went in somewhat ‘precarious’, both came out positive. Hope it continues tonight.

Av-a-dabba-doo Replying to Av-a-dabba-doo
Dan G

Dan G

November 5, 2017

I, too, would enjoy a bit of a dive into these stats during the post game podcasts. I could use the hockey IQ boost as well. The segment could be sponsored by a company that makes Ginko Biloboa or fish oil pills, perhaps.

As far as Duchene goes, I just don’t think management can dangle a guy out there to trade for such a long and protracted time before the player finally agrees and says, “OK, I agree with you. You’d be better off without me.”

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Cerveau

Cerveau

November 5, 2017

‘@ocms It has been my impression (based on speculation only) that Duchene has indeed said as much already.

November 5, 2017

It’s your list so do it how you want, but I have a bit of an issue with giving Mironov a D just because Bednar chose to play him. You focused on Bednar’s decision in your explanation for the grade anyway, so why not just give Mironov the grade he deserved for what he actually did on the ice? Just seems kinda petty to withhold a better grade just because you think he shouldn’t have played in the first place, it’s not his fault the coach put him in the lineup.

…Although I probably wouldn’t have given him a much better grade anyway, he was pretty much a non-factor, so probably a C at best.

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Dan G

Dan G

November 5, 2017

I agree that the grade should be about on ice performance, not a coaches decision. That being said, if Mironov was a ‘non-factor’ and that is actually good for a guy who all you want is for him to stay out of the box and no goals against, then wouldn’t grade be higher than a C? Aren’t we glad he was a non-factor and shouldn’t he get graded on that scale?

Essentially, he was there to suck up ice time and did his job. He wasn’t really put in a position to do much else.

Dan G Replying to Dan G

November 5, 2017

True, there’s something to be said for a guy who goes out there and doesn’t hurt the team. But he didn’t stay out of the box though, he took a penalty in the 3rd. And if I’m going to give him a boost for sucking up ice time, I’d want it to be more than 8 minutes’ worth. I just find it tough to give him any higher than a C based on what little he did.

But it’s nice that this is the sort of thing we have to quibble about right now!

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Dan G

Dan G

November 5, 2017

Fair enough, although his TOI was 8:53. 🙂

I’m not advocating he get a grade higher than a C, but just that grades are based on what players are put in a position to do.

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Av-a-dabba-doo

November 5, 2017

“The segment could be sponsored by a company that makes Ginko Biloboa or fish oil pills, perhaps.” LOL I love it.

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