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Colorado Avalanche Roundtable: Jonathan Drouin on the Trading Block

Cole Hamilton
Cole Hamilton
January 3, 2016
Colorado Avalanche Roundtable: Jonathan Drouin on the Trading Block

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January 4, 2016

Huh?

1) both of you seem to think plenty of people want to go to TB. What evidence do you have to support that statement? Most of the evidence is to the contrary. St L was a star there and wanted to finish his career there, he asked to go. Stamkos seems unhappy only a few months away from being in the finals. A young talent wants out. Winning hides a lot of problems, but now they aren’t winning. Obviously something is wrong there in TB, and I’m guessing the problem is the front office, since that’s where everyone is pointing when they leave. So, TB is a team that had it last year, and now the team is falling apart. Nobody is going there until they get things fixed.

2) if I’m wrong, and it’s just a few bad apples, then why would the Avs want to trade for a bad apple?

3) He’s a kid who’s upset that they sent him to the minors. This isn’t serious.

4) You’re trading 2,3 or 4 quality prospects for one prospect. And you seem to be projecting juniors level performance into NHL results. If this was the case, there would never be a bad draft pick.

I appreciate enjoying the fantasy game of trading a kid and imagining he’s a star to be uncovered. But it’s a game you play in the basement drinking beers while the Av’s lay a Calgary deuce. If that’s all your doing, then say so. But none of your trade scenarios is reality. You’re trading away quality prospects for an unhappy talent who wants to find easier answers. he smells like a prima donna.

In this situation, Joe might make an offer, but not at your level. If he gets a steal, great. But don’t sell out on a fantasy.

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January 5, 2016

This is easy enough to respond to.

1. MSL wanted to finish his career in Tampa Bay until Steve Yzerman left him off of Team Canada, causing the rift that led to his departure. People all around the NHL believe Stamkos wants to test the market more than simply wanting out of TB. Them struggling this season is as much a case of injuries decimating the team as any kind of perceived unhappy locker room, though the Stamkos situation certainly isn’t helping anything.

2. I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about with bad apples

3. His trade request was in November. This isn’t in response to being sent
to the minors this past week. He asked for the deal 2 months ago.

4. The proposed deal included Drouin plus another prospect, though of a slightly lesser caliber, so your contention that it was all for one is simply incorrect.

Also the idea that you project junior level production into the NHL is something mathematically proven to be successful. Go look up the PCS draft models sometime when you’re bored and check it out. There’s more to drafting than that but even in limited NHL time, Drouin has shown he’s plenty capable of producing points.

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January 8, 2016

Aj, you’re missing my point. 🙂

Yzerman caused a rift in his team, and had to let a star go. That’s a little weird. it burned him in the playoffs. Maybe just a nothing, but it’s weird. But add to that Stamkos ‘wanting to test market’ AND Douin wanting out… that might be coincidence but it’s not.

Jr production is great when there is no NHL experience. But we have NHL experience. So, when they have played in the NHL, you temper your memories of the JR experience, and consider their NHL production. You guys talked almost exclusively about how well he played with Mack in the jr’s. well fair enough. But here’s why I’m concerned:

he played 70 games last year for a team that played in the finals. As a rookie, he got 32 points, which is pretty good. Tip your hat to him. But only 6 goals.

This year, he comes out of camp on fire, but gets hurt after 6 or so games. Hurt for 20 or so games if I remember right. He asks for a trade WHILE HE IS HURT! (why would he do that?) He comes back, is pretty much ineffective, and now he can’t stay on the team! This on a team that as you put it ‘is decimated by injuries’.

Sorry, your trade looks to me like you are trading for a Prima Donna (my bad apple), and over paying in the trade at that. You are giving up 2 or more pretty good prospects for 1 kid that I’m not sure won’t turn into another ROR attitude, and ‘something to sweeten the pot’

January 5, 2016

As an Avs fan i would be all for shipping out Siemens and Bleackley as well as a future pick but not a 1st rder.

They are already getting 2 1st rders in those players. Siemens needs a change of scenery. we have been waiting on him for the past 4 or 5 years it seems. And Bleackly i didnt even understand why we drafted him.. There were way better prospects to be had. Then he shows up to his first training camp overweight and lost.

We could throw in a 2nd rder and maybe another player with some experience. But Zardorov isnt going to be part of the deal.

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