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This is the Avalanche rebuild you have been waiting for

AJ Haefele
AJ Haefele
November 21, 2017
This is the Avalanche rebuild you have been waiting for

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November 21, 2017

Well done. Now we enter the “hope” stage. Have we been there before?

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Carter970

Carter970

November 21, 2017

Is it the “hope” stage? It seems more like an enjoyment stage watching these young kids play. Exciting!

Nels

Nels

November 21, 2017

Who needs the “agony of victory” anyways? The “thrill of defeat” last year was spectacular. I just like watching these young guys play, these games are so exciting. I really could have done without watching/hearing (everyone heard the snap, right?) Komanov’s arm break though.

AceODale

AceODale

November 21, 2017

To further add proof to Sakic’s commitment to this being a rebuild year with young, developing talent, look at the summer FA adds of Kerfoot and Toninato.

These signings were moves that caught some of us completely off-guard. Instead to getting older, slower, the Front Office actually lured young, blue-chip prospects to Denver. Both of these kids were captains of their respective NCAA teams and have been electric to watch.

dstal89756

dstal89756

November 21, 2017

The predominant issue with the Fall and Decline of the Avalanche is drafting.The narrative on the Johnson trade would be much different if the Siemens pick had been spent on Saad or Kucherov or JT Miller. Players who were still on the board at the time that Siemens was selected.

It is always interesting to play the what if game. For example what if the Avalanche had been able to workout a long tern deal with Craig Anderson or at the very least used an Offer Sheet on Varlamov limiting their exposure in assets to a first round pick?

Colorado has quietly stacked up three consecutive solid drafts and the 2018 draft is shaping up to be a watershed moment for the team if it can continue its approach of selecting quality prospects. Team depth has improved considerably, salary cap flexibility is available as well.

Now that the Avs have committed to Girard and both Timmins and Maker are on the horizon would one additional major trade be approaching in 2018-19? Johnson and Landeskog are providing valuable veteran leadership but could Tyson Barrie prove to be expendable as the younger defensive prospects earn more opportunity with the Avalanche?

Credit to Joe Sakic and company for finally getting this rebuild right. It seems now in hindsight that the addition of MacFarland was the turning point and once the internal power struggle with Roy was decided the personnel moves have a much clearer direction towards the future.

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Bob_W

Bob_W

November 21, 2017

Something not often discussed is how the changes in the scouting staff that Sakic (and Roy) made a couple of years ago has effected the outcomes of subsequent drafts and players acquired via trade. While GMs get most of the credit for obtaining talent it is really their selection of a scouting staff that is critical as those are the people who do the work and build the reports that are used to make the selections/trades.

Bob_W Replying to Bob_W

November 21, 2017

I dove into this a little above

pixelrebirth

pixelrebirth

November 21, 2017

Even if they had 5 more losses this year already, I would be enjoying this year much more than last knowing the direction things are moving. Would love to see more assets come our way for Comeau or Nieto or maybe even Soda— we need the roster spots for all these talented players to slot into.

Looking forward just watching them next game, and the next.

November 21, 2017

I agree with dstal89756, drafting is at the center of the stalled rebuild. Before the Duchene era, there was year after year of underwhelming draft classes and traded high round picks. No first rounder in 2001, 2003, 2005, or 2008. The first draft year with two firsts since 1998 was 2011 (Landeskog/Siemens). 2009 Was a great year, but it is 100% an outlier. In 2010, here’s the selection (and NHL games played):
Hishon (13), Pickard (86), Bournival (108), and Aittokallio (2), then (0) (0) (0) (0).
Here’s 2011:
Landeskog (428), Siemens (4), then (0) (0) (0) (0)
Here’s 2012:
(0) (0) (0) Blandisi (68), Smith (1)
Here’s 2013:
MacKinnon (300), Bigras (31), Martin (3), (0) (0) (0) (0)
After that, only Greer, Rantanen, and Jost have any NHL games played, with the caveat that you’re getting into picks where they’re too recent to tell.

Hopefully they’ve turned it around.

Undervaluing picks and tossing them around like candy at the end of October had long been a hallmark of the Avalanche strategy. The Avs management record is full of atrocious things like spending Craig Anderson, Brian Elliott, Filip Forsberg, and two second round picks to get Varlamov and Berra.

The Avs were terrible because they weren’t good at evaluating talent. With the benefit of hindsight, you could build a cup winner out of players the Avs dumped or passed over in the draft. It started before Roy was obsessed with heavy hockey while the league went the opposite way. It seems as though that era is over. Cross your fingers, and let’s chat in four or five years…

Cerveau

Cerveau

November 22, 2017

As much as I like our progress I also feel nervous about going too much in the “small and fast” direction after seeing how Nashville pretty much dominated us because they seemed able to out muscle us.

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JDC15

JDC15

November 22, 2017

You have to remember that we aren’t necessarily going “small and fast”, but with these ultra young players they are going to be on the light side of 200. Yes Girard is a smaller guy but I don’t know about you but I had no problems adding 20-30lbs from 19 to 21. Makar is 5’11” 190, so easy to see him playing at 210. Miko is already a big boy, as is Landy. Toninato is listed at 6’2” 200, Khamenev 6’2” 192, Compfer 6’ 200, MacK 6’ 205, Greer 6’3” 205, even Jost is listed at 191. The defense has some size as well in the obvious big boys EJ, Z, Mironov is decent sized, Nemeth is 6’3” 215, Meloche is 6’3” 215. Yeah there is no jumbo guys outside EJ and Z and yeah Kerfoot and Girard are definitely light but I’d take the current make up over what has been thrown out there the last few years of plodding Big guys.

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Cerveau

Cerveau

November 22, 2017

Cool! Thanks Jim C. I feel much better now.

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