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Joe Sakic will not deviate from the plan

Adrian Dater
Adrian Dater
February 6, 2019
Joe Sakic will not deviate from the plan

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Johnny M

Johnny M

February 6, 2019

Fuck I hope they trade Barrie.

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George in Limbo

George in Limbo

February 6, 2019

I’m scared they’re going to trade Zadorov.

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Adrian Dater

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February 6, 2019

They might

MaxPrime867

MaxPrime867

February 6, 2019

imho – between last year success, compounded by the really good start by the avs had this year.. expectations have been set WAY higher than they reasonably should be..

Regardless of the slump the boys are going through, this is all part of growing as a team.. which a the young avs core NEEDS to go through..

im with Joe on this.., stick with the process and the long term plan, and it will pay HUGE dividends in the next 2-3 years when the AVS are in maturing as a group, and will truly be scary team to watch, and content for the cup.

This year (just like last year, and just like next year as well) should be focused towards growth and development for the Avs.
Playoff experience is great to build throughout the process, but it can’t be done at the the expense of the bigger, long term picture.

Once the avs are back competing for a cup every year, that’s when you can take a bigger risk and try to sell pieces to make the push..

In Joe we trust.
Go avs go

February 6, 2019

I do like the fact that Super Joe is patient and looking at the big picture to continue to strengthen our team through our upcoming draft picks and younger players in the pipeline. However, the one area I think he is too patient is with our head coach. Joe’s response on the coaching ““The problem is not coaching at all,” Sakic said. “We have good systems…”

Yes, good systems are essential but coaching leadership is another area altogether, and I do not see our head coach directing the team through this downturn in a way that breaks the player’s lack of confidence. Rather, just like the 2nd half of the 2016-17 season, I believe he focuses on the systems rather than leads to instill confidence back into all players, across all positions. In fact, I think he almost does the opposite where if the players make a mistake, there is an immediate reaction by our coach to scratch, bench or lessen their ice time. The best coaches have a way of minimizing slumps and for the second time in three years, I do not think our coach has the capability to bring us out of a downturn until it’s too late (and we miss the playoffs).

This is an area where I believe Super Joe is too patient. We have the 2nd youngest team in the NHL and having a veteran coach that has been through the ups and downs of season after season to help our players overcome these slumps is what is needed now and for our future. My ten cents.

mladen

mladen

February 6, 2019

I can see trading Barrie but not Z. He gives them something no other player does. His FA signings from last summer are all busts. Grub is not a NHL goalie, Ian Cole has quit, and Matt Calvert adds nothing. Neither does Colin Wilson. these guys and “Getto” should be trade bait to see if we can some how get a goalie out of it.

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Nels

Nels

February 6, 2019

Preach it I’ll turn the pages.

StormSlab

StormSlab

February 6, 2019

On the bright side, we’re going to save a bunch of money on contract extensions for Kerf, Rants, Z at this rate and get an extra lottery pick for [Coach Q’s triumphant return] next season. What coach wouldn’t want to join this young core next year with what will be added in top prospects and picks? No need to fire Bednar now – the best coaches don’t want to sit out a lame duck season and screw up their own future draft pick. Let Bednar sink or swim this year, then move on in the off-season to a proven top coach if/when they miss the playoffs.

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Nels

Nels

February 6, 2019

Sounds reasonable to me.

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MrDucksworth

MrDucksworth

February 6, 2019

I think they would have to do absurdly bad the rest of the year for them to fire Bednar (basically continue the slide we’re on haha). This was never thought to be our huge breakout year, that’s next year, and given making the playoffs last year I would say Bednar will get at least another year. This is assuming they sort of right the ship this year, which I think they will to some extent. Q would be sweet, but I don’t think that will happen either (I would love to be wrong!)

In regard to contract extensions, the teams bad year isn’t going to play a huge role in that, it’s players individual performances.
That being said, Z is not going to get offered a contract extension he’ll accept. He has not earned a big pay day, but I think he still wants to get paid. I think he will likely go to arbitration, and be shipped off next year at the deadline.
Kerfoot will most likely get an ok extension, he’s been decent.
But you think we’ll save money on Rantanen because the recent slide, and they’ll just ignore him being one of the top 5 scorers in the league? He is going to get paid big time, and our record probably won’t hinder that much if at all.

xdikkx

xdikkx

February 6, 2019

It would definitely suck if they missed the playoffs after last year’s run, but the bright side is they’ll have two top-half picks in the entry draft.

Nels

Nels

February 6, 2019

I just wish we knew who exactly Joe views as the “top prospects”. He made it obvious he’s talking about Makar. Who else? Timmins was mentioned but he’s WAAAAAAAAAAAY behind even where he was last season at this point. So who makes that list or falls under the “top prospects” category in Joe’s mind?

Bowers?
Girard?
Kerfoot?
Kamanev?
Jost?
Compher?
Ghetto?
Most importantly Zadorov? AD why would he trade big Z?

At 23, why isn’t Z still a “top prospect”? I honestly can’t think of any reasons why Z would be on the table. I can think of lots of reasons why he shouldn’t even be considered. That’s just me I guess? I’m not Super Joe, but doesn’t he have this team right back were it was 2 years ago, in terms of on-ice results (and Big Z is one of the few bright spots)? He’s made 0 progress at this point and it’s been 2 years, so his plan is to wait longer or trade Z, one of the few not undersized – and the only truly terrifying – physical presence the Avs posses? I’m having a hard time following Super Joe’s Flag right now. Someone please try to convince me that this drunken (or maybe in this case, lazy) beating from my abusive hockey spouse/team is going to be the last one.

At the very least, Joe needs to be BUSTING BALLS to package up any or all of Varly , Grub, and Barrie with some guys not named LAndy, MAck, Rants, or Zadorov, and some picks that don’t start with a 1 this year, and bring in at least one real piece for the future NOW. They can still do that and be the 2nd or 3rd worst team by the end of the season. I just don’t want to see them lose 31 in a row!

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Nels

Nels

February 6, 2019

I don’t want to see them trade Z either :/ He was one of the few bright spots in 16-17 as well, come to think of it. And he’s one the most entertaining guys in the NHL.

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jpwheels

jpwheels

February 6, 2019

Very good points.
As I’ve commented before, I like Bednar and believe he’s been really good for this team.
But I do think he’s partly responsible for not getting the Avs back on track.
In his pressers, one of the things he keeps mentioning is ongoing issues with poor execution.
I know he can’t make the plays, but it starting to seem like the coaching isn’t getting through to the players.

I hadn’t thought about him having issues in “coaching leadership” because that’s generally left up to the veterans in the room.
Interesting thoughts you have on that.

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jpwheels

jpwheels

February 6, 2019

From your list, I think Ghetto could be dropped and Kaut added. Plus, I think there are other guys in Lonveland the Avs like…but less so.
And I agree — I see no reason to trade Z either. I think that would be a mistake.

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