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Brutal effort in Ottawa brings back the anxiety to Jared Bednar and Avs fans

Adrian Dater
Adrian Dater
January 17, 2019
Brutal effort in Ottawa brings back the anxiety to Jared Bednar and Avs fans

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AllezAllezAllez

AllezAllezAllez

January 17, 2019

Ya’ll have said it on the podcast a few times that the leadership in the locker room doesn’t know how to win. With that being said and with this slump reaching critical mass is it time to start thinking about moving on from some bigger pieces? I get it sets the rebuild back but this mentality poisons young players and spans multiple seasons. Hope the top line has fun at the all star game because it’s looking like a not fun run to end the season after that.

Steve -B

Steve -B

January 17, 2019

Nice, channeled the fans frustration in this one quite well. What an opportunity lost to get Varly’s confidence up as well. After your goalie who has struggled saves your bacon in the 1st, you don’t come out in the second and play the exact same level of uninspired hockey.

KCRybek

KCRybek

January 17, 2019

One line team with shabby goaltending

Johnny M

Johnny M

January 17, 2019

Morale is back in the shitter. New leadership, maybe strip Gabe and bring in someone through a trade? I don’t know if that’s a valid idea, just tossing things at the wall to see what sticks at this point. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Barrie go in a trade, for sure.

Bgravel

Bgravel

January 17, 2019

They need some grit on the 4th Line and more talent on the 2nd …..a trade please a , Burakovsky , Ferland , Anderson or Crouse please Joe …….And bring AJGreer to play 10 Min …..play Zad more and play with EJ , Girard -Cole please

ahinton54

ahinton54

January 17, 2019

I believe someone on these threads recently stated that the Avs are close to being cup contenders…you have got to be kidding me. How can professionals get called out for effort of all things? That’s the kind of thing you teach to bantams not professionals. PATHETIC.

jjs3616

jjs3616

January 17, 2019

AD, curious if Dutchy went to dinner or anything with any of the guys? Does he have any friends left on this team or have all those bridges been burned? Thanks for your coverage of another stinker by our boys.

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Adrian Dater

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January 17, 2019

He said he did, yes

Steve Cañon

Steve Cañon

January 17, 2019

I don’t get the lack of effort and lackadaisical, cavalier approach. The boys embarrassed themselves, tonight.

jpwheels

jpwheels

January 17, 2019

I agree with Steve -B, this is a good piece Dater.

There a few things about this team that both puzzle and frustrated the hell out of me.
1- starting games flat. It happens to every team occasionally. But this team is making a habit of it…a very bad habit.
2- lack of effort. Bednar nailed it — the effort has to be there first. All of these guys spout on and on how they love to play the game. But the lack of effort in games like tonight isn’t playing the game, it’s just being there. How about being a professional and actually trying.
3- playing down to weaker teams. I’m starting to wonder if this team thinks it’s so good it can take a night off and still beat teams that are lower in the standings. I have no idea what else the player’s mindset could be when the team lays a big, hard-boiled egg against a team they should wax easily.

Lastly, I’m sure I’ll hear/read as I click around the interwebs tonight about the team is still young and needs to learn how to win…or it’s not about W/L, it’s about the process. I do understand those things and can’t completely disagree with them. But, honestly, they’re starting to sound like excuses. We know very little about what goes on between coaches & players and players & players when they aren’t on the ice. But I’m starting to think that there’s a big problem with accountability on all levels with this team. The kind of garbage the Avs displayed tonight should be unacceptable on every front to everyone involved with the team. And they all know it, and some have said it in the past. But whatever they’re doing to address it isn’t working.

DP10

DP10

January 17, 2019

If you keep going down by 2 goals+, you can’t expect to win. Why do they keep getting into these holes? What part does the coach play in this scenario. How much of this is due to team leadership? Is it all just due a mental break down or is the ice structurally tilted against them?

The Avs are the worst team in the NHL since the beginning of December. In terms of results they have officially regressed to their ‘16/17 form.

If it is all mental, maybe a major shake up like firing the coach, benching some of their perennial underperformers or trading a big name might wake them up. Or maybe they are just structurally so deficient that they need to recognize that the rebuild on this team is still not complete. In that case, Sakic needs to make a sober analysis of the roster: Varlamov, Johnson (for their advancing age), Jost (while he is still considered a prospect and can fetch a return), Andrighetto and Nieto because they have clearly hit their ceiling… there are plenty of candidates on this roster that might be worth moving ahead of what will be a draft with 1 or 2 high picks.

DP10

DP10

January 17, 2019

PS: i am curious: is it fair to say that these two games will prove to be the turning point of the season..for better or for worse? It seems to me that following up a bit of a breakout performance (vs the Leafs) with such a thud can either galvanize the squad’s resolve or break their spirit in a much more lasting fashion. I am reminded a bit of that late season meltdown under Roy in 2016. They had a string of really bad results against the Flyers, capitals and the Wild that ultimately buried their playoff hopes (despite a realistic shot at squeezing into the post season) and would set them up for the disastrous 2016/17 season.

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Wesley

Wesley

January 17, 2019

The problem is this has been happening throughout this slump. A complete stomping by the Avs (Rangers, Leafs, Etc.) Then 3 or 4 games of getting dominated by whoever they play next, regardless of quality of competition.

BenV

BenV

January 17, 2019

As if there were any other possible outcome…

Bob_W

Bob_W

January 17, 2019

You cannot manufacture hunger to win or desparation to win. You have to actually feel it. This team has demonstrated repeatly that they do not. If and when they do actually feel it then it will consume them 24 hours a day. They will have trouble sleeping. They will be chomping at the bit to get back on the ice for the next game. They will take it to their opponents like demons out of hell from start of the 1st period to the end of the 3rd. Until we see them do all this there is no way we can believe they are any different from the team of the season before last.

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jpwheels

jpwheels

January 17, 2019

Bingo!
But the most confusing and frustrating thing is that they did have that hunger and desperation at the start of the season.
So something changed. I have no idea what changed. And it sure as hell looks like nobody with the team does either or has a clue as how to fix whatever the issue is.

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ahinton54

ahinton54

January 17, 2019

Bob, great commentary. You know what they are hungry for? Paychecks.

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